'MZmisc07'
Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Mohaut (Montalt) of Hawarden, Mohaut (Montalt) of Montalt (Mold), Montfichet of Stanstead, Musard of Seynesbury, Musard of Staveley
| The following William de Montfichet is identified in some web sites as son of Robert de Gernon, apparently the same Robert who was ancestor of various Cavendish families. We are not convinced on this not least because Collins, in its article on the Cavendish Dukes of Devonshire, makes no mention of such a connection. | |||||||||||||||
| William de Montfichet of Stanstead (d 1135/6) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret de Clare (a 1185, dau of Gilbert FitzRichard de Toneburge) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gilbert de Montfichet of Stanstead | ||||||||||||||
| m. Aveline de Lucy (dau of Richard de Lucy, justiciar) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Richard de Montfichet of Stanstead (d 1203/4) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Millicent | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir Richard de Montfichet of Stanstead, Sheriff of Essex (d unm 1258)§C |
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| ii. | Margaret de Montfichet | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Hugh de Bolebec (d c1240) | |||||||||||||||
| iii. | Adelina or Aveline de Montfichet | ||||||||||||||
| m. William de Fortibus, Earl of Albemarle | |||||||||||||||
| iv. | Philippe de Montfichet | ||||||||||||||
| Sir Hugh de Plaiz (d before 18.08.1244) | |||||||||||||||
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| This family took its name from a hill, Mons Altus now Mold, in Flintshire. It is known both by the latinised version (Montalt) and the Norman-French Mohaut. The first mentioned by TCP & BE1883 was Hugh FitzNorman, brother of Ralph & Roger. Commoners starts its article with "The family of Maude, originally Lords of Monte Alto, in Italy, was established in England by Eustace de Monte Alto, surnamed the Norman Hunter, one of the soldiers of the Conquest" and then identifies his sons as "de Monte Alto". However, we suspect that the reference to Monte Alto is presumptuous. | |||||||||||||||
| Norman = Eustace, 'Norman Hunter' | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Hugh FitzNorman | ||||||||||||||
| A. | William FitzHugh de Muhald (d (sp?) c1141) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Ralph FitzNorman | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Robert FitzRalph de Mohaut or Montalt (d c1162) identified by Commoners as Roger, son rather than nephew of Hugh | ||||||||||||||
| The following follows TCP & BE1883 rather than Commoners. Working out the exact differences is not easy not least because of the apparent confusion between the uses of Robert and Roger. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Leucha (possibly dau of William FitzNeel of Halton) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Ralph de Mahaut of Montalt or Mold (d c1200) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Maud | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Robert de Mahaut of Montalt or Mold (d c1210) probably father of ... | ||||||||||||||
| This might be the Robert shown by Commoners as married to Emma, dau of Sir Robert Delaval, sister of Beatrix who married William Malpas, and father of various sons including Andomar, ancestor of the Maudes. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Roger de Mahaut of Montalt or Mold (d 1232) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Nichole | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Roger de Mahaut of Montalt or Mold (d 28.06.1260, justice of Chester) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Cecily d'Aubigny (dau of William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel, by Mabel of Chester) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Robert de Mahaut of Mold and Hawarden (d before 16.09.1275) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1261) Joan de Mowbray (d 1314-5, dau of Roger de Mowbray) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Roger de Mahaut or Montalt of Mold and Hawarden, Lord Mohaut (dsp before 02.12.1296) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Juliane de Clifford (dau of Roger de Clifford) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Robert de Mahaut or Montalt of Mold and Hawarden, Lord Mohaut (b 25.03.1274, dsp 26.12.1329) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c01.1300/1) Emma (d 26.01.1331/2, widow of Richard, Lord FitzJohn) | |||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Isabel de Mahaut apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. William de Morley, 1st Lord of Morley (d by 1302) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | John de Mahaut or Montalt (a 1289) | ||||||||||||||
| TCP notes that Dugdale, citing Glover's Collections, identifies John as the eldest son who married (before 1254) Milicent de Cantilupe and died before 1273 but supports an argument that that was another John. BE1883 shows John as elder brother and married to widow Elene then Milisent de Cantilupe. We follow TCP. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elene (a 1289, widow of Robert de Stockport) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | daughter apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. Hugh de Ferrers of Bugbrooke | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Andomar or Aylmer de Montalt (a 1174) possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| Neither TCP nor BE1883 mention Andomar. The generational attributions shown by Commoners are suspect not least because there are some suspect dates. For example, Commoners shows Andomar (a 1174) as nephew of Beatrix whose father-in-law is thought to have still been alive in 1252. | |||||||||||||||
| c. | Beatrix de Montalt possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| Beatrix, shown by Commoners as daughter of Ralph and sister of Robert, is identified by Visitation (Cheshire, 1580, Mallpas, Barons of Mallpas) as "fil. naturalis Rogeri Montealt" and by Visitation (Cheshire, 1580, Egerton of Egerton and of Olton) as "base sister to Sir Roger Monhalt". | |||||||||||||||
| m. William Malpas | |||||||||||||||
| iii. | Roger de Mahaut of Elford (youngest son) | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Leucha de Mohaut (d by 1227) | ||||||||||||||
| BE1883 suggests that Leucha was daughter of the above Roger by Cecily de Albini but we follow TCP (Orreby) in showing this connection. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Philip de Orreby of Alvanley (b c1190, dvp) | |||||||||||||||
| iv.+ | other issue - William, Ranulph | ||||||||||||||
| 3. | Roger FitzNorman | ||||||||||||||
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| Hascuil Musard of Stavelie (a 1066) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Richard Musard of Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Hasculf Musard of Staveley (d 1184-5) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Johanna | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Ralph Musard of Staveley (d 1229-30) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabella (relict of John de Neville) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Robert Musard of Staveley (dsp 1239-40) | ||||||||||||||
| b. | Ralph Musard of Staveley (d 1254-5) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christiana (a 1288) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Ralph Musard of Staveley (d 1261-2) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Matilda (a 1299) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Musard of Staveley & Seynesbury (dsp 1288-9) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Nicholas Musard (rector of Staveley) | ||||||||||||||
| partner(s) unknown | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Malcolm Musard of Seynesbury | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Musard | ||||||||||||||
| (B)+ | other issue - William, Christiana, Johanna | ||||||||||||||
| (3) | Amicia Musard (a 06.1276) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Aucher or Ankere de Frescheville of Crich, Palterton, etc (d before 18.11.1266) | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Margaret Musard | ||||||||||||||
| m. John de Hibernia | |||||||||||||||
| (A)+ | issue - John (b c1285), Ralph, Alice | ||||||||||||||
| (5) | Isabella Musard | ||||||||||||||
| m. ?? | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Johanna | ||||||||||||||
| m. William de Chellardestone | |||||||||||||||
| (6)+ | other issue - Malcolm (dsp), John | ||||||||||||||
| ii.+ | other issue - Robert, daughter | ||||||||||||||
| B. | William Musard of Miserden, later Rosper or de Rubra Spatha (a temp Henry III 1216-1272) | ||||||||||||||
| C. | Matilda Musard | ||||||||||||||
| m. Matthew de Haversheg | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Montfichet (uploaded 12.12.04) : various web sites plus cross-references from elsewhere in the database
(2) For Mohaut/Montalt (uploaded 03.02.06) : TCP ('Mohaut'), BE1883 ('Montalt') with some input from Commoners (vol 2, 'Maude of Alverthorpe and Wakefield', p83+)
(3) For Musard (uploaded 15.03.11) : CTG (vol 4, 'Pedigree of the Frecheville and Musard families', p2)
[The information on Marow (first uploaded on 11.10.04) has been transferred to Marow1.]
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