'Hervey01'
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Families covered: Hervey of Ickworth, Hervey of Kidbrooke (Kidbroke), Hervey (Harvey) of Thurley (Thirley)
| For interest we show the version of this family's pedigree provided by Collins and the Bedfordshire Visitation but do so in italics to highlight the fact that it is not supported by the more recent BP1934 which we presume to have been produced following further research. Collins starts with the following Robert, reportedly a younger son of Hervey (or Harvey), Duke of Orleans. | |||||||||||||||
| Robert FitzHervey | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | ?? FitzHervey | ||||||||||||||
| Collins suggests that this may have been either Robert FitzHervey or Hervey, Bishop of Bangor then Ely, or Count Hervey, Governor of Devizes Castle, or Hervey de Yuon, who married a daughter of William Goieth. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Henry FitzHervey (a 1190) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice (dau of Henry FitzIvo) | |||||||||||||||
| Visitation (Bedfordshire) & Lipscomb (Bucks, vol 1, p326) start with this Henry but the Visitation adds an intervening generation of another Henry, father of Osbert. We follow Collins & Lipscomb in showing Osbert as of the next generation. | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Osbert de Hervey in Helnfestune (d 1205-6) | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Adam de Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Juliana Fitzhugh (dau of John Fitzhugh) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Hervey of Thirley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Harman (dau/heir of John Harman or Hammon of Thirley) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | William Hervey of Thirley (d 1377) shown by Visitation, omitted by Collins & Lipscomb | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Folliot (dau of Richard Folliot) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Hervey of Thirley or Thurly or Thurleigh | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Nernuytt (dau/coheir of Sir John de Nernuytt or Neyrnute of Burnham, son (or great-grandson) of Thomas by Alice, dau of Thomas Buckland of Buckland) | |||||||||||||||
| At this stage we start seeing some (but not yet consistent) names that also appear in BP1934. There was clearly some confusion between different members of the family. This generation is the first shown by the Harleian Society's publication of Visitation (Bedfordshire) not to be in brackets. The following 2 generations are also shown in brackets but thereafter not. | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | John Hervey of Thirley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery Calthorp (dau of Sir William Calthorp or Calthrop) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Thomas Hervey of Thirley or Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Paston (dau of William Paston) | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | John or Thomas Hervey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christian Chichley (dau of John Chichley, Chamberlain of London) | |||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | John Hervey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Morley (dau of Nicholas Morley of Glind) | |||||||||||||||
| ((a)) | Sir George Hervey see @1@ below | ||||||||||||||
| ((b)) | Thomas Hervey of Ickworth see @2@ below | ||||||||||||||
| ((c)) | Elizabeth or Isabell Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Leigh of Adlington | |||||||||||||||
| ((ii)) | John Hervey, junior | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Wickham (dau of William Wickham, widow of William Fienes, Lord Say & Seale) | |||||||||||||||
| ((iii))+ | other issue - Edward, Richard, Isabella (nun), Anne, Christian, Alice, Margery, Florence | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Cicely FitzHervey mentioned by Visitation | ||||||||||||||
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| The following is as reported by BP1934, supplemented by information from other of the named sources. Visitation (Essex) starts with Henry of Thurley, father of Sir Edward, father of John who married Joane Neirwent (Neirnuyt). We follow BP1934 which starts with ... | |||||||||||||||
| John Hervey of Thurley and Risley | |||||||||||||||
| m. Marjory Parles (dau of Ralph Parles) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | John Hervey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Nernuytt (dau of Sir John de Nernuytt of Burnham, son of Thomas by Alice, dau of Thomas Buckland of Buckland) | |||||||||||||||
| Visitation (Suffolk) starts with this John & Joan but shows Thomas, who married Christian Chichele, as 2nd son rather than brother of John and shows an additional generation, left out by BP1934, being John (d before 08.1458, married Joan/Jane, dau of William Paston), father of John (d 23.09.1474, married Agnes Morley, father of Sir George and Elizabeth/Isabel) & Thomas of Ickworth (m. Jane Drury), Richard & Elizabeth. Visitation (Essex) shows John & Joan as parents of Thomas who by Christian Chicheley was father of the following John, father of Sir George & Thomas of Ickworth. We follow BP1934. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Hervey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Agnes Morley (dau of Nicholas Morley of Glynde or Glind) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir George Hervey, Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire (d before 08.05.1526) see @1@ above | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Stanford (dau of John Stanford of Bedfordshire) identified by Visitation (Suffolk) | |||||||||||||||
| p. Margaret Smart identified in Collins | |||||||||||||||
| The following comes from Visitation (Bedfordshire, 1566+1634, Hervy of Thurleigh). | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Gerard Hervey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Elizabeth (sb Jane) Williams (dau of Sir John Williams of Thame) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Hervey or Harvey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary St. John (dau of Sir John St. John of Bletshoe or Bletneshoe) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Oliver Harvey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Browne of London (widow of Robert Clarke) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Harvey of Thurley (a 1634) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Hervy (dau of Stephen Hervy of London) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | John Harvey (b c1633) | ||||||||||||||
| This is presumably the John reported by BP1934 as the last of Thurley, died in 1715. | |||||||||||||||
| (ii)+ | other issue - Elizabeth, Mary, Anne, Gertrude | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Sir Gerrard Harvey of Cardington (a 1634) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Dorothy Gascoigne (dau of John Gascoigne of Cardington) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Elizabeth Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Cecil Bussy (son/heir of Andrew Bussey of Cheshunt) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii)+ | other issue - Anne, Dorothy | ||||||||||||||
| (C) | John Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Amyce | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| (D) | Samuel Harvey of Shenfield (5th son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Dorothy Wingate (dau of George Wingate) | |||||||||||||||
| (i)+ | issue - George, Judith | ||||||||||||||
| (E) | Jane Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joseph Berners of Steple Bumsted | |||||||||||||||
| (F) | Mary Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Fearclough of Weston | |||||||||||||||
| (G) | Martha Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Arthur Cornwall of Mount Neysing | |||||||||||||||
| (H)+ | other issue (dsp) - Nathaniel, Daniell, Benjamin | ||||||||||||||
| (2)+ | other issue - Anne, Frances, Margery/Mary | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Anne Luke (dau of Nicholas Luke, baron of the Exchequer) | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Agnes Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Thomas Hervey of Ickworth (d 1477 (or c1467)) the first mentioned by MGH, see @2@ above | ||||||||||||||
| m. Jane Drury (dau of Henry Drury of Ickworth) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | William Hervey of Wordwell and Ickworth (b 1465, d 01.08.1538, 3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Cochett (dau of John Cochett or Cockett of Ampton) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | John Hervey of Kirtling and Troston, later of Ickworth (b 1487, d 11.06.1556) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1511) Elizabeth Pope (dau of Henry Pope of Mildenhall) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Hervey of Ickworth and Boxted (b 1509, d 02.11.1592) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Poley (d before 04.09.1616, dau of John Poley of Boxted) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Hervey of Ickworth (b 1555, d 02.07.1630) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (16.09.1582) Frances Bocking (d 22.02.1620, dau of Edmund Bocking of Ashbocking) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sir William Hervey of Ickworth (b 21.03.1585, d 1660) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (21.03.1612/3) Susan Jermyn (d 02.06.1637, dau of Sir Robert Jermyn of Rushbrook) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | John Hervey of Ickworth (b 18.08.1616, dsp 18.01.1679) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Hervey (dau of Sir William Hervey, Lord Hervey of Kidbrooke) @@ below | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Sir Thomas Hervey of Ickworth (b 25.05.1625, d 27.05.1694) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1658) Isabella May (d 05.06.1686, dau of Sir Humphrey May, Vice Chamberlain) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | John Hervey, 1st Earl of Bristol (b 27.08.1665, d 20.01.1750/1, 2nd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (01.11.1688) Isabella Carr (b 20.01.1669/70, d 07.03.1692/3, dau of Sir Robert Carr, Bart of Sleaford) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (25.07.1695) Elizabeth Felton (b 18.12.1676, d 02.05.1741, dau of Sir Thomas Felton, Bart of Playford) | |||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Isabella Hervey (b 23.08.1659, d 1697) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Gervase Elwes, younger of Stoke (dvp, MP) | |||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Kezia Hervey (b 24.04.1664) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Aubrey Porter of St. Edmondsbury | |||||||||||||||
| ((4))+ | other issue - William (b 31.10.1661, dvp unm 14.06.1663), Thomas (b13.01.1668, d 29.12.1695), Elizabeth (b 16.09.1660, d 18.02.1673) | ||||||||||||||
| (c) | Judith Hervey (b 20.04.1615, d 12.07.1679) | ||||||||||||||
| m. James Reynolds of Bumsted | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Mary Hervey (b22.05.1620, d 13.07.1654) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Edward Gage, 1st Bart of Hengrave (d 1707) | |||||||||||||||
| (e) | Susan Hervey (b 14.07.1621) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Thomas Hanmer, 2nd Bart of Hanmer (d 1678) | |||||||||||||||
| (f) | Kezia Hervey (b 11.11.1621, d 22.11.1659) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Tyril of Gipping | |||||||||||||||
| (g)+ | other issue - child (b/d 17.04.1614), William (b 15.05.1619, d 23.09.1642), Anne (b 09.04.1618, d 12.12.1619), Catherine (b 24.01.1623, d 16.01.1625), Nicholas (b 12.07.1627, d 22.06.1629), Henry (b 18.06.1631, d 08.09.1631) | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Penelope D'Arcy (dau of Thomas D'Arcy, Lord of Chiche, Earl Rivers) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Mary Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Giles Allington | |||||||||||||||
| (iii)+ | other issue - Robert, Frances (d unm 1619), Elizabeth (d unm 22.04.1623) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Francis Hervey (bur 25.09.1587) shown by Collins as the Francis who married Mary Nevill (see below) | ||||||||||||||
| (C) | Ambrose (bpt 25.06.1566, a 1620) | ||||||||||||||
| partner unknown | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | son (bpt 1593) | ||||||||||||||
| (C) | Elizabeth Hervey (bur 28.05.1630) | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Harward of Bury (St. Edmunsdbury or Bury St. Edmunds) | |||||||||||||||
| (D) | Bridget Hervey (bpt 31.07.1568, d by 1614) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.11.1584) Henry Collins of Bury (St. Edmunsdbury or Bury St. Edmunds) | |||||||||||||||
| (E)+ | other issue - William (bpt 01.10.1555), William (bpt 15.09.1557), Thomas of Bury, Robert (bpt 27.11.1570), Ursula (bpt 22.03.1558, d young) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Francis Hervey (b 1530, d 1601/2, 2nd/7th son) shown as of this generation by Visitation (Suffolk) & Visitation (Suffolk) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (1564) Mary Nevill (dau of Sir Thomas Nevill of Holt, widow of Thomas Smith of Cressington) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Camilla Gwicherden (dau of Vincent Gwicherden of Florence, widow of _ Darcy of Tolshunt Darcy) | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Elizabeth Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Rogers | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Anne Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Robert Lisley of Felton (d 25.04.1554) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Ralph Ellerker (probably not Eldercave or Eldercare) | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Ursula Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Henry Vesey of Cambridgeshire | |||||||||||||||
| (6) | Bridget Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m1. John Wrotte (Wroth) of Bungay | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Edward Spanye of Tunstall (d c1575) | |||||||||||||||
| (7) | Jane Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. George Minshull of Woodnorton | |||||||||||||||
| (8)+ | other issue - John, Nicholas, Clement, Thomas, Robert, Christopher, John, Mary | ||||||||||||||
| b. | Sir Nicholas Hervey of Bakenloo (d 25.08.1532, 3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Elizabeth FitzWilliams (dau of Sir Thomas FitzWilliams, widow of Sir Thomas Mauleverer) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Sir Thomas Hervey 'of Helmstock, Lincolnshire' (dvp 1543) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Lucy Hervey mentioned by MGH | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Cotton, Sheriff (a 1547) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Bridget Wiltshire (dau of Sir John Wiltshire of Stone Castle, widow of Sir Richard Wingfield) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Henry Hervey of Kidbrooke | ||||||||||||||
| m. Jane Thomas (dau of James Thomas of Llanvihangell) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir William Hervey, Lord Hervey of Kidbroke or Kidbrooke (bur 08.07.1642) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (before 31.01.1598/9, sp) Mary Browne (d 1607, dau of Anthony Browne, 1st Viscount Montacute) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (05.02.1607/8) Cordelia Ansley (bur 05.05.1636) dau of Brian Ansley of Lewisham) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Elizabeth Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Hervey of Ickworth (b 18.08.1616, dsp 18.01.1679) @@ above | |||||||||||||||
| (ii)+ | other issue- William (dvpsp), John (dvpsp), Henry (d young) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Elizabeth Hervey apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christopher Keynell of Dorset | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Frances Hervey (b c1563, bur 14.09.1649) apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Evelyn of Long Ditton (b 1551, bur 25.10.1617) | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Sir George Hervey of Marks, Essex (d 10.08.1605) | ||||||||||||||
| BE1883 names George and identifies him as ancestor of Herveys of Marshal, Kent. The following comes from Berry's Essex Pedigrees (1838, Warren) which identifies Margaret & Elizabeth as coheirs of their (only surviving) brother. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Frances Beckwith (dau/coheir of Sir Leonard Beckwith by Elizabeth Cholmondeley) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir Gawen Harvey (b c1575, 5th son) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Margaret Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. (11.06.1590) William Mildmay (dvp, son/heir of Sir Thomas of Barnes) | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Elizabeth Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Nicholas Coote of Valence | |||||||||||||||
| (D)+ | 4 sons (dvp) | ||||||||||||||
| Shown by MGH, but of which marriage is not clear, were ... | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Thomas Hervey of Helmstock, Lincolnshire (d 1543) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Lucy Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Cotton, Sheriff (a 1547) | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Anne Hervey (b 1529, d 1605) | ||||||||||||||
| m.George Carew (b 1498, d 1583) | |||||||||||||||
| c. | Anthony Hervey of Swarland (a 1542, 5th son) sometimes confused with his cousin Anthony of Columb John (just below) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1542) Lucy Lisley of Swarland (b 1516) | |||||||||||||||
| d. | Edmund Hervey of Elstow, Bedfordshire (d before 1560) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Wentworth | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Isabella Hervey mentioned by MGH | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Humphrey Radcliffe (d 1566) | |||||||||||||||
| e. | Elizabeth Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Guybon (Gibbon) of Sudbury | |||||||||||||||
| f. | Jane Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Vynnes | |||||||||||||||
| g. | Margaret Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. _Pratt | |||||||||||||||
| h.+ | other issue - William (?, d young), Francis of Witham (d 1587) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Thomas Hervey or Harvey (Archdeacon of Monmouth, 4th son) | ||||||||||||||
| The following comes from MGH (p167). | |||||||||||||||
| m. Constance Herbert or Harbert of Monmouth | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Anthony Hervey 'of Columb John' (youngest son) sometimes confused with his cousin Anthony of Swarland (just above) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eleanor Willesden of Devon (widow of John Speke) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Elizabeth Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anthony Cockshed of Chulmleigh | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Margaret Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Amyas Paulet (d 1588) | |||||||||||||||
| b.+ | other issue - Henry, Richard of Quincammell | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Elizabeth Hervey (d 09.05.1519) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Crofts of West Stow | |||||||||||||||
| iv.+ | other issue - John (dsp), George (archdeacon of Monmouth), Simon, Mary | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Thomas Hervey 'of Bedfordshire' (d 1468) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christian Chichele (dau of John Chichele, nephew of Henry, Archbishop of Canterbury) | |||||||||||||||
| The following comes from Visitation (Surrey, 1530+1572+1623, Leigh (Harl. 1561, fos. 13b+14)). | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Hervey or Harvey of Thurley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Agnes Morley (dau of Nicholas Morley) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir George Harvey (dsp(l)) | ||||||||||||||
| The following was found on a web site. | |||||||||||||||
| partner unknown | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Margaret Hervey | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Smarte | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Gerard Smarte, later Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Isabel Harvey | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Leigh of Addington (d 1502) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For upper section (uploaded 04.04.06) : Collins (1741, vol iii, Hervey, Earl of Bristol), Visitation (Bedfordshire, 1566, Hervy of Thurleigh)
(2) For lower section (uploaded 23.08.04, extended 04.04.06) : BP1934 (Bristol) with input/support from Visitation (Suffolk, 1561, Hervey of Ickworth), BE1883 (Hervey of Kidbroke), Visitation (Essex, 1612, Harvey or Hervey), Collins (1741, vol iii, Hervey, Earl of Bristol) and a little from MGH (NS4 vol 4 (1912), p165+)
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