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Families covered: Palmes of Naburn

Thomas Palmes of Naburn (a 1419)
m. Alice Pickering (dau of John Pickering of Ellerton)
1. William Palmes of Naburn
  (1) Commoners identifies William's 2nd wife as Margaret, dau of John Ingleby of Ripley. Although we initially thought that this may be right, our faith in that was weakened by its report that Margaret was previously married to Lord Talboys but no mention of any such marriage is mentioned in either TCP (Tailboys) or TCP (Kyme). Accordingly, we follow BLG1952's identification of her as Margaret Inglesby.
(2) BLG1952 makes no mention of any children by the first marriage but reports that there was issue by the second marriage, naming only William. Commoners shows William, John, Robert & Margaret as children by Ellin and reports that there was no issue by the second marriage. Visitation (Yorkshire, 1563-4, Roclyff) shows Ellen as mother of Bryan, Guy, Anne & Jennet but mentions no other children. We provisionally allocate the children to William's wives as shown below but note that it is not fully certain.
  m1. Ellin Rocliffe (dau of Guy Rocliffe of Cowthorpe, sister of Brian, baron of the Exchequer)
  A. Guy Palmes (2nd son?)
  ## Following BLG1952 & Commoners, we show the Guy, who was brother of Brian and married Jane Brew and was ancestor of the Palmeses of Lindley, a generation later, below. However, Nichols, used for the continuation page for Guy below, and the Visitations shows this as that Guy.
  B. Anne Palmes
  m. _ Lyston
  C.+ other issue - Bryan (dvp?), Jennet
  m2. Margaret Inglesby (dau of John Inglesby of Rigby)
E. William Palmes of Naburn
  Visitation refers to earlier sources that exclude this generation and follows that example, noting that (in respect of the undermentioned Brian and Guy being sons of the above William, shown as by Ellen Roclyff, rather than grandsons) "the dates will not allow of an intermediate generation." However, this William is the first mentioned by BLG1886 (which identifies him as 9th in descent from Sir William Palmes (a 1346) and 15th in descent from Manfred Palmes). We follow Commoners and BLG, which mentions him as reported in the 1530 Visitation, in including him.
  m1. Elinor Heslerton (dau of William Heslerton of Heslerton)
i. Brian Palmes of Naburn (d c12.1519, judge, recorder at York)
  m1. Ellen Acclom (dau of John Acclom or Acclam or Aclame of Moreby)
  a. Nicholas Palmes of Naburn
  m1. Johanna Conyers (dau of William (sb Christopher) Conyers of Sockburn)
  (1) Brian Palmes of Naburn
  m1. Johanna Dawnay (dsp, dau of Sir John Dawnay of Cowick and Sessay)
  m2. Anne Constable (dau of Sir John Constable of Halsham and Burton Constable)
  (A) John Palmes of Naburn (a 1584)
  m. Jane Dawnay (dau of George Dawnay of Estrike (probably not Sir George 'of Cowick & Sessay'))
  (i) Sir George Palmes of Naburn (a 1630)
  m1. (1584) Katherine Babthorpe (dau of Sir Ralph Babthorpe (not Balthorpe) of Babthorpe)
(a) William Palmes of Naburn
  m. Catherine Langdale (dau of William Langdale of Langthorpe)
  ((1)) William Palmes of Naburn
  m. Mary Stapleton (dau of Sir Brian Stapleton of Hirst Courtney)
  ((A)) George Palmes of Naburn (b 03.11.1666, 2nd son)
  m. Anne Witham (dau of George Witham of Cliffe)
  ((i)) George Palmes of Naburn
  m. Frances Plumpton (b 1702, dau of Robert Plumpton of Plumpton)
  ((a)) George Palmes of Naburn (d 07.02.1774)
m. Catherine Heneage (d 1758, dau of George Heneage of Hainton)
  (((1))) daughter (d infant)
  ((b)) John Palmes of Naburn (d 1783)
  m. (16.11.1775) Susannah Wharrie (dau of Thomas Wharrie of Hull)
  (((1))) George Palmes of Naburn (b 18.10.1776, d 03.1851) had issue
m. (15.01.1810) Margaret Isabella Lindsay (d 08.04.1869, dau of William Lindsay of Oatlands)
  (((2))) Elizabeth Palmes (d 04.04.1867)
  m. Samuel Walker of Masborough
  ((c)) Anne Palmes probably of this generation
  m. John Savile of Copley (d c1664)
  ((ii)) Brian Palmes (dvpsp)
  m. _ Scarisbrick of Lancashire
((iii))+ other issue (d unm) - George (d young), William (dvpsp), Stapleton, Grace, Mary
  ((B)) Mamaduke Palmes
  m. Jane Meynell (dau of Thomas (not Roger) Meynell of Kilvington)
  ((i)) Mary Palmes
  m. Thomas Smith of Bidlesden
  ((ii))+ other issue (d unm) - Marmaduke, William, Roger, Anne
  ((C))+ other issue (d unm) - Nicholas (b 31.10.1664, dvp), Brian, William, Catherine, Mary, Elizabeth
  ((2)) Bridget Palmes
  m. Michael Metcalf of Otterington
  ((3))+ other issue (d unm) - George (d young), John, Catherine, Mary
  (b) Elizabeth or Anne Palmes
  m1. (sp) Sir John Savile of Roundhay
  m2. Walter Bethell of Alne
  (c) Ellen Palmes
  m1. Alexander Vadka of York
  m2. William Constable
(d)+ other issue - George (d unm), Ursula (nun), Grace (nun)
  m2. Mary Stotton (dau of _ Stotton of Crakemarsh)
  (ii)+ other issue - John, William, Frances
  (B) Frances Palmes
  m. Gabriel Fairfax of Street Houses
  (C)+ other issue (d unm) - George, Brian
  m2. Susan Waterton (dau of Sir Robert Waterton of Walton)
  (2) Edward Palmes (dsp)
  (3) George Palmes of Essington in Holderness
  m1/2. Anne Lacy (sister of Robert Lacy of Towton or Folketon)
  It appears that George dsp having (also) married ...
  m2/1. Katherine Wood (dau of Richard Wood of Swinsley)
(4) Richard Palmes
  m. Elizabeth Nevill (dau of Henry Nevill of Chevet)
  (5) Edith Palmes
  m. Sir Thomas Metham of Metham
  b. Agnes Palmes
  m. Sir William Balthorpe of Balthorpe (Babthorpe of Babthorpe)
  c.+ other issue (d unm) - George, William, Richard
  m2. _ Markenfield (dau of _ Markenfield of Markenfield) mentioned by Commoners but not BLG1952 or Visitation
  ii. Guy Palmes (a 1504, sergeant-at-law)
  ## See the note above. Various sources show this Guy a generation earlier.
  m. Jane Drew (dau/coheir of John Drew of Bristol, widow of _ Moore)
Mentioned by Visitation as sisters of Bryan and Guy, presumed actually of this generation, of this marriage, were ...
  iii. Jenet Palmes
  iv. Anne Palmes
  m. _ Lyston
  m2. Anne Westropp (dau of William Westropp)
  F. John Palmes
  m. _ Lascelles (dau of Humphrey Lascelles)
  G. Robert Palmes
  m. _Cotes (dau of John Cotes)
  H. Margaret Palmes
  m. John Sherbrooke

Main source(s): Commoners (vol 1, 'Palmes of Naburn', p611+), BLG1952 ('Palmes of Naburn') with some support from Visitation (Yorkshire, 1562-3, 'Palmes'), Visitation (Foster, Yorkshire, 1584/5 & 1612, 'Palmes of Naburne')
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