'Dethick3'
Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Dethick of Amerstone, Dethicke of Gretham, Dethicke of Poplar
| (1) We first released a version of this page as Draft on 05.02.08, using our Harleian Society's versions of Visitation (Durham) and a little input from Wikipedia ("Gilbert Dethick"). Although pedigrees have been shown connecting them to the family on Dethick1, see here, it appears that their ancestry was derived from the following Robert who was (according to Wikipedia) "a Dutchman". Thanks to a contributor (CV, 27.10.13) for drawing to our attention to the fact that Oxord DNB reports that Robert was "of the king's armoury at Greenwich, a German armourer brought to England by Erasmus Kyrkener". A footnote on Dwnn's 'Visitations of Wales' (vol 1, p133, footnote) identifies Robert as "a duche man born, and by occupation a forger of armore, came into England wt. Erasmus Crakeoer, Yeoman Armorer to King Henry 8". (2) MGH shows the father of Sir Gilbert (Garter, m. Alice Peeterson) as son of Robert Dethick "Steward to Edmund de la Pool, Duke of Suffolk", by Agatha Lindekar "born at Acon", and identify that Robert as son of Gilbert Dethick, son of Roger son of Sir William of Dethick Hall. It is perhaps possible that Robert became a steward to the Duke of Suffolk in later life but his claimed ancestral connection to the Dethicks of Dethick Hall appears to have been rejected. |
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| Robert Dericke or Derrick or Derick (d 1525) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Agatha Leyendecker (dau of Matthias Leyendecker ("a duche barbore, dwellinge in the cytie of Acon in Germany")) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gilbert Dericke or Derrick or Dethicke (3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. " the daughter of Leonard, a Dutch shoemaker (in London)" | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir Gilbert Dethicke of Poplar (in Stepney) (b c1503, d 03.10.1584, Garter King of Arms) the first mentioned by Visitation (Durham) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Alice Peterson (d 13.01.1572, dau/heir of Leonard Peterson of Germany) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Nicholas Dethicke (dsp 19.01.1596, Windsor Herald) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eleanor Clough (dau of Robert Clough of Minsterley) | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Sir William Dethicke of Poplar, Middlesex (b c1542, bur 1612, Garter King of Arms) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomasine (or Ann) Young (dau of Robert Young of London) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William Dethicke (d 28.03.1582) | ||||||||||||||
| b. | George Dethicke of Gray's Inn (d before 20.08.1631) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Hawley (dau of James Hawley of Brentford) | |||||||||||||||
| MGH is not clear as to whether the following daughters (Susan, Thomasine & Anne) are children of George or of his brother Gilbert. | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Susan Dethicke (b 1612) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Juxon ## see here ## | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Thomasine Dethicke | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Bennet | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Anne Dethicke | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Watson | |||||||||||||||
| c. | Gilbert Dethicke of Poplar (d 22.05.1639) had issue (see note just above) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Joan Serle (d 10.03.1607, dau of Alexander Serle of London) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Rachel Blunt (a 1639, dau of John Blunt) | |||||||||||||||
| d. | Henry Dethicke of Poplar (d before 11.10.1639) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Best (a 10.1639, dau of Captain Thomas Best of Radcliff) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Henry Dethicke of Poplar (b c1623, a 1688, bur 19.06.1707, Richmond Herald, 3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Susanna Hall (dau of Henry Hall of Poplar) | |||||||||||||||
| (A)+ | issue - Henry (d young), Thomas (d young), Thomas (d young), Thomas (d young), Gilbert, Thomas (b c1668, a 1692), Henry (b c1674, a 1692), George (d young), Elizabeth (a 1692), Susanna (a 1692), Mary (a 1692), Anne (d young), Thomasine (a 1692), Anne (a 1692) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Elizabeth Dethicke (a 1639) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Everard Exton (brother of Sir Thomas) | |||||||||||||||
| (3)+ | other issue - Gilbert (b c1621, d young), Thomas of Leghorn (b c1622, d unm 1680), William (b 10.10.1624, d unm 22.08.1655), George of Poplar (b 03.12.1625, a 1680, d 11.1688), John (b 03.08.1628, d young) | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Henry Dethicke 'of Gretham' (b c1546, d 1613, Master in Chancery, Chancellor of Carlisle) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Jane Bowes (dau/(co?)heir of Sir Martin Bowes of London) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Martin Dethicke 'of Gretham' of Amerstone (co. Durham) and/or Thorp (Yorkshire) (b 07.06.1593, a 1615) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Wycliffe (dau of John Wycliffe of Thorpe) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Francis Dethick (bpt 08.07.1617, 4th son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Cromp (dau of Laurence Cromp of Fifeley) | |||||||||||||||
| (A)+ | issue - Richard (d young), Martha (a 1692) | ||||||||||||||
| (2)+ | other issue - John (b c1614), Henry, Martin, Beele (Isabella?, bur 01.08.1617) | ||||||||||||||
| b. | Margaret (Margery) Dethicke (b 12.02.1594) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Wycliffe of Gales | |||||||||||||||
| c. | Cordelia (Cordall) Dethicke | ||||||||||||||
| m. (18.11.1606) Henry Tennant of Scotton or Scorton | |||||||||||||||
| d.+ | other issue - Daniel (b 24.10.1596, bur 20.01.1596-7), Francis (bur 10.12.1605), Thomas (b 26.02.1598), Stephen, Susanna, Elizabeth, Jeane | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Jane Duncomb (bur 1606, dau of Richard Duncomb of Mereton, widow of William Naylor, m3. Alexander Nevill) | |||||||||||||||
| iv. | Robert Dethicke (bpt 15.07.1561, dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| v. | Mary Dethicke | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Butler of Orwell | |||||||||||||||
| B.+ | other issue including Mathew (bur 08.1583) | ||||||||||||||
| 2.+ | other issue - Dericke, Matthias (d 1572, in Greenwich) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) Visitation (Durham, 1575+1615+1666, Dethick of Amerstone) with input in italics from FSCOMT
(2) 'The History and Antiquities of the County Palatine of Durham' (Robert Surtees (Hills & Co., 1910), Hartlepool Section, 'Pedigree of Dethick of Amerston', p99)
(3) an extract entitled 'Pedigrees and Heraldic Notes of Gregory King' (pp273-274), from MGH (NS5, vol 9 (1935-7)), which was kindly provided to us by a contributor (CV, 27.10.13)
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