'Pecche1'
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Families covered: Pecche (Lords)
| William Pecche or Pecchie | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Alfwen (a 1088) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Isilia (probably dau of Hervey de Bourges) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Hamon Pecche (d before 12.1185) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 1135) Alice Peverel (dau of Robert Peverel) | |||||||||||||||
| MGH shows Hamond as son of Sir Gilber Peche of Barndwell, Cambridgeshire. , and gives 2 sons for him: Sir Gilbert & Sir Walter with no mention of Geoffrey.. We show Walter as the 3rd son (not mentioned by TCP) and not below the differences for Gilbert's descendants. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Geoffrey Pecche (d(sp) before 12.1188) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (by 1185) ?? (widow of Richard de Colechirche) | |||||||||||||||
| TCP reports that Gilbert dsp, his brother being his heir. However, W.U.S. Glanville-Richards, in his book on the Glanville family ('Records of the Anglo-Norman House of Glanville', 1888), shows Geoffrey as father of the following Sir Gilbert. We have no reason to doubt that much of the following is correct but it appears that this connection to the baronial family of Pecche may be spurious. | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir Gilbert Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| m. Maud Leach | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir Simon Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| m. Julian de Glanville (dau of Sir Geoffrey de Glanville of Bromholm) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Almuric Pecche (d 1268) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alianore de Glanville (dau of Sir Geoffrey de Glanville of Bromholm) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Edward Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Thomas Pecche (b c1287) | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | Thomas Pecche (a 1311) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Bartholomew Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Gilbert Pecche (d before 09.07.1212) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice FitzWalter (a 1213, dau of Walter FitzRobert of Dunmow, sister of Robert FitzWalter) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Hamon Pecche (d 1241) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eve | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Gilbert Pecche (d 25.05.1291) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Maud de Hastings (d 1264-5, possibly dau of Henry de Hastinges (grandfather of 1st Lord of Abergavenny)) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Joan de Creve (a 1302, dau of Simon de Creve, widow of Richard de Dover of Chilham) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Gilbert Pecche, 1st Lord (d before 26.06.1322) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Iseult (a 03.1331/2) | |||||||||||||||
| Berry & MGH show that the Sir Gilbert Peche who married Isolda (Izowla) was son of Sir Gilbert (by dau of Sir Simon Gray or Greye) son of Lord Hamond (by dau/heir of Sir Payne Peverell) and was father of (Elizabeth and) Sir Gilbert whose daughter/heir (by a daughter of Sir Hugh Watevile) was Catherin. | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Gilbert Pecche, 2nd Lord (b 1305-6, d before 24.08.1349) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (by 10.1331) Sibyl | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Joan (widow of John de Ingoldesworth) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Roger Pecche, 3rd Lord (dsp 29.08.1360) | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Katherine Pecche, 'Baroness Pecche' (b c1339, dspm) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Sir John Aspall shown by Berry as "of Aspall in Suffolk" | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Merabel Aspall | ||||||||||||||
| TCP notes that the barony descended through Merabel "to the family of Lucas". MGH, supported by Berry, reports that this was through ... | |||||||||||||||
| m. William Geding or Geddinge of Suffolk | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Thomas Geddinge | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Thomas Notebeme (or Notbeam) identified by Berry as Sir Thomas Nutbeane, by MGH as Sir John Nutbenne | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Margaret Notebeme (Nutbeane) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Hinkley shown by Berry as "of Hinkley, Suffolk" and by MGH as "of Suffolke" | |||||||||||||||
| TCP shows that Margaret had 2 daughters, one (not named) and Cicely who, by Henry Caldebeck, had 2 unnamed daughters who m. _ Bladwell/Blodwell & _ Turner respectively. Berry& MGH provide the following: | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Cicely Hinkley named Griselde by Berry | ||||||||||||||
| m. Henry Caldebeck | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Thomasin Caldebeck | ||||||||||||||
| m1. John Turner of Haverhill | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Thomas Underhill of Little Bradley, Suffolk | |||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | Thomas Underhill | ||||||||||||||
| ((a)) | Thomasin Underhill | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Stotvill of Dalham | |||||||||||||||
| ((b)) | Ann Underhill | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Knighton of Bayford | |||||||||||||||
| ((B)) | Margaret Caldebeck | ||||||||||||||
| m. Geffrey Blodwell or Bladwell of Thurloe | |||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Catherin Hinkley (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Cavendish | |||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Alice Hinkley (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Marshall | |||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Elizabeth Pecche (b c1348, dsp 21.03.1361/2) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Simon Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Margery Pecche probably of this marriage | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Nicholas de Criol or Kyrriel (d 1303) | |||||||||||||||
| (3)+ | other issue - William, Simon, John | ||||||||||||||
| b.+ | other issue - Hamon, Hugh, Robert, Thomas, William | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | daughter apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. Nicholas, lord of Anstey (d by 1225) | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Sir Walter Pecche not mentioned by TCP or Berry, this line from MGH (see note above) | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir Gilbert Pecche | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Rose Peche | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Visdelew | |||||||||||||||
| D. | Maud Pecche (b c1135, a 1185) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Basilia Pecche of Marley probably of this marriage | ||||||||||||||
| Not sure by which wife were ... | |||||||||||||||
| 3.+ | other issue (a 1130, dsp) - Simon, Ralph of Cheveley | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s) (originally uploaded in PZmisc06 on 22.01.09, extended (using Berry) 08.01.13, moved here 04.01.19, reviewed 05.07.21 with MGH) : TCP ('Pecche'), Berry's Essex Pedigrees (1838, 'Hunt'), MGH (NS3 vol 4 (1902), p184+) with input as reported above
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