'StJohn01'
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Families covered: St. John of Hameldon, St. John of Lageham, St. John of Plumpton, St. John of St. John
[Much of the original 'StJohn1' became 'StJohn2', later 'StJohn02'. Expansion and some correction led to the relaunch of this page on 05.11.03. It was renamed 'StJohn01' on 06.11.05.]
| BE1883 identifies the arms of this family as "Ermine, on a chief, gu., two mullets, or." | |||||||||||||||
| Ralph de St. John le Thomas (a 1053) a predecessor of ... | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Thomas, Sn de St. John Thomas (dsp before 1130) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | William de St. John of East Meon (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| 3. | Roger de St. John (d by 1130) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Cecily (dau of Robert de la Haie) | |||||||||||||||
| Cecily's father is identified by VCH (Sussex, vol 4: The Rape of Chichester, Boxgrove) as Robert de Haye of Halnaker, son of Rannulf the steward of Count Robert of Mortain. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | William de St. John of Halnaker (dsp before 12.1220) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Olive (dau of Stephen, Count of Brittany, Lord of Richmond) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Godehaut | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Robert de St. John (dsp 1199/1200) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Olive FitzJordan (a 01.1235, dau of Alan FitzJordan, sensechal of Dol) | |||||||||||||||
| D. | Muriel de St. John | ||||||||||||||
| m._ d'Orval | |||||||||||||||
| Muriel's husband is sometimes named as Rainald d'Orval (or de Aurevalle) but TCP suggests that that is probably wrong although he might have been a descendant of that Rainald. | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Mabel, heiress of Orval | ||||||||||||||
| m. Adam de Port, lord of Basing, Governor of Southampton Castle (d 28.07.1213) | |||||||||||||||
| Their elder son assumed the name St. John. | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | John de St. John (d before 1153) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Thomas de St. John (dsp 1175-6) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Roger de St. John (d by 05.1214) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 02.1192/3) Cecily de Lucy (dau of Reynold de Lucy) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Sir John de St. John (b before 1197, d before 23.01.1229/30) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Emma | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir Roger de St. John (d Evesham 04.08.1265) | ||||||||||||||
| Roger, father of the 1st Lord of Lageham, is described by BE1883 as "younger son of the 1st baron". We follow TCP. | |||||||||||||||
| m. ?? le Despenser (probably dau of Hugh le Despenser of Loughborough) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John de St. John, 1st Lord of Lageham (d by 06.1316) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John de St. John, 2nd Lord of Lageham (d 23.04.1323) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery (d 24.02.1345/6) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John de St. John, 3rd Lord of Lageham (d 08.04.1349) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1320) Katherine de Say (a 09.1355, dau of Geoffrey de Saye, 1st Lord) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Roger de St. John, 4th Lord of Lageham (b 24.06.1329, dsp 28.03.1353) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (by 11.1342) Joan (d before 02.1363/4) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | William de St. John | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Piers de St. John, 5th Lord of Lageham (b before 1313, d unm 1355) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Nicolas de St. John of Glimpton | ||||||||||||||
| C. | William de St. John (rector of Steeple Barton) | ||||||||||||||
| i. | John de St. John | ||||||||||||||
| D. | Alice de St. John | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard de Monte | |||||||||||||||
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| Baker identifies the arms of this family as "Gules, two bars Argent, a canton Ermine". | |||||||||||||||
| Sir John de St. John of Hameldon, co. Rutland | |||||||||||||||
| m. Juliana Taillard (dau of Ralph Taillard of Hameldon) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William de St. John of Hameldon (d by 1288) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sarah Plumpton (a 1285, dau of Sir Robert de Plumpton of Plumpton) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir John de St. John of Plumpton (dvp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Matilda FitzNigel (dau of Robert FitzNigel) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | William de St. John of Plumpton (b c1272, a 1315) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Ismania Bagot (a 1308, dau/coheir of Sir William Bagot) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William de St. John of Plumpton (d 04.07.1331) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabella Combemartin (d 30.04.1401, dau/coheir of William Combemartin of Alderton & Stoke Bruere, m2. Richard de Rothing of Loindon, m3. John de Daventre or Grimscote) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Sir Giles de St. John of Plumpton (d 1392, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Margaret Lions (dau of Sir John de Lions of Warkworth) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Margery de St. John (d 1448) | ||||||||||||||
| m. William de Harwedon of Harrowden & Plumpton (d 1413) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Maud (a 1392) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Margaret de St. John (dsp 1395) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1370) Sir John de Lions of Warkworth (dsp 1385) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Elizabeth de St. John (a 1308) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Sarah de St. John (a 1327) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Robert de St. John of Plumpton (a 1327) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For upper section (uploaded 05.11.03) : TCP ('Saint John of Lageham'), BE1883 ('St. John of Lageham')
(2) For lower section (uploaded 14.10.19) : 'The History and Antiquities of the County of Northampton' (George Baker, vol 2, 1841, 'Plumpton, St. Johm, Harwedon, Skenard of Skinnerton, Knightley of Plumpton, &c.', p96+)
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