'Smith28'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Smith of London, Smyth of North Nibley, Smyth of Stonehouse, Smith of Tedworth

Our first draft on this family came wholly from Griffith. Thanks to a contributor (CV, 29.11.09) who provided us with extracts from "Notes on the History of Tidworth" by J. Moloney (1982) and "A History of Tidworth and Tedworth House" by David J. Croman (1991) and drew our attention to Visitation (London, 1633-5, 'Smith' (p243)). These have enabled us to expand & improve Griffith's version as follows.
Peter Smith of London (fishmonger)
1. Thomas Smith of London, 1st of Tedworth in Hampshire (a 1634, alderman)
m. (1608) Jane Robinson (dau of John Robinson of London)
  A. John Smith of London & Tedworth (b c1611, d 1690) the first mentioned by Griffith
  Visitation ends showing John as married to Mary Wright. Griffith starts with a John Smith who married Anne, dau of Nicholas Stuart of Hartley Maudit, shown as mother of Thomas, Speaker John & Ann (m. Sir Samuel Dashwood). However, Visitation (Hampshire and the Isle of Wight, 1686, 'Steward of Hartley Maudit'), shows that the Anne Steward who m. John Smith of Tidworth did so in 1679 and dsp 1680 whilst the Anne who m. Sir Samuel Dashwood is shown by BP1934 ('Dashwood') as having married him in 1670. Both Moloney & Croman make it clear that this John, son of Thomas & Jane, was the father of Speaker John & Anne.
  m. Mary Wright (dau of Edmund Wright ('of Swakeleys'), Lord Mayor of London) shown by Visitation as wife of John, presumed mother of ...
i. Thomas Smith (dsp)
  ii. John Smith of South Tedworth (b 1655, d 30.09.1723, Speaker of House of Commons, Chancellor of the Exchequer)
  Although none of the sources mention a marriage prior to Anne Strickland, we presume that this John was first married to ...
  m1. (01.09.1679) Anne Steward (b 15.09.1652, dsp 08.09.1680, dau of Nicholas Steward of Hartley Maudit)
  m2. (c1684) Anne Strickland (dau of Sir Thomas Strickland, 2nd Bart of Boynton)
  a. William Smith of Tedworth, Sheriff of Carnarvonshire (dsp 1773)
  b. Mary Smith (b 1688)
m. (1705) Robert Sawyer Herbert (dsp 01.04.1769, son of Earl of Pembroke)
  c. Harriet Theodosia Smith (b 1699, d 23.01.1773)
  m. (23.04.1724) Thomas Assheton of Ashley (bpt 30.09.1678, bur 09.07.1759)
  d.+ other issue - Thomas (d 1728), Henry plus at least 3 sons (dvpsp?), 3 daughters
  iii. Anne Smith (d 16.06.1721)
  m. (17.05.1670) Sir Samuel Dashwood, Lord Mayor of London (d 14.09.1705)
  B. Mary Smith
  m. Humpfry Bennett (3rd son of the Alderman/Sheriff)
  C. Jane Smith
  m. William Gore (d 1662, son of Sir John)
  D. Martha Smith
  m. Archdall Pallmer of London (son of William of London)
  E.+ other issue - Henry, Thomas
2.+ other issue - Anthony, Richard (dsp), Mary



William Smith of Humberstone, Lincolnshire
m. Emot identified in the schedule from CV referred to below
1. Thomas Smith of Hoby, Leicestershire (d by 1594)
m. Joan Alan (dau of Richard Alan of Derby)
  A. John Smith of Smyth of Warrens Court, North Nibley, Gloucestershire (b 10.11.1567, d 24.02.1641, MP, genealogist & antiquarian)
  m1. (05.10.1597, sp) Grace Thomas (d 09.11.1609, dau/heir of William Thomas of Wotton-under-Edge, widow of John Drewe of North Nibley)
  m2. (09.01.1610) Mary Browning (d 1666-7, dau of John Browning of Coaley)
  i. John Smyth of Smallcombe's Court in North Nibley, Mayor of Wotton-under-Edge (b 08.09.1611, d 17.09.1692)
  m1. (1631) Anne Bromfeild (bur 02.12.1643, dau of Sir Edward Bromfeild, Lord Mayor of London)
  a. Edward Smyth of North Nibley & Southwark (b 1632, a 1688, of the Middle Temple)
  m. (1659) Rose Leeche (d 1689, dau of Sir Edward Leeche or Leigh of Shipley)
  (1) George Smyth of North Nibley
  m. (1691) Dorothy Mann of Norwich
  (2)+ other issue
Howes reports that 4 children were baptised "between 1666 and 1675, and no fewer than four buried in 1681."
  b.+ other issue - John (d 1656), William (d c1665), Thomas (bpt 1638, had issue (in Ireland?)), James in London (grocer), Charles at Barton End in Horsley (a 1671), 4 others
  m2. Anne Bromfeild (d 1700, dau of John Bromfeild of Udimore, cousin of Anne (the dau of Sir Edward))
  k.+ other issue - John in London (b 1658, grocer), Gabriel in London (druggist), Arabella (bpt 1647, d infant), 3 others
ii. Thomas Smyth of North Nibley, later of Stonehouse (d 1684)
  m. Mary Fowler of Stonehouse (heiress of Stonehouse)
  The following connection comes from a schedule (on the Ridler family) kindly provided by a regular contributor (CV, 03.02.14).
  a. Thomas Smyth or Smith of Stonehouse (bpt 08.02.1656, a 1682)
  m1. (1675) Mary Ridler (b 1656, d 01.10.1675, dau of Nathaniel Ridler of Chalford & Edgeworth)
  (1) Mary Smyth (bpt 14.09.1675)
  m. (29.10.1696) John Ball of Blackwell Hall
  m2. (1685) Elizabeth Atkins of Harefield
  iii.+ other issue - William of Southfield, George of Isleworth & Topcroft Hall (d 1702), another son, 4 daughters
  Wikipedia ('John Smith (antiquarian, born 1567)') reports that the above John (MP) "is believed to be the great grandfather of the poet John Smith". Assuming (for convenience) that the connection did not come through one of the above John or Thomas, we assume that one of the younger sons was father of the following John who is identified by Wikipedia ('John Smith (English poet)') as father of the poet.
  a. John Smith of Barton, Gloucestershire
  (1) John Smith (b 1662, d 16.07.1717, poet)

Main source(s):
(1) For upper section (first uploaded into a Temporary page on 18.11.09, revised 30.11.09) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Vaynol, p368) with input/support as reported above
(2) For lower section : 'John Smyth the Younger of North Nibley and His Papers" (R. Howes, 2003, "From the Transactions of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaelogical Society" (#121, (2003), 13-231')) with input from HoP ("John Smyth") and as as reported above
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