'Meschines1'
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Families covered: Meschines of Chester
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| Ranulph 'de Briquessart' de Meschines, Vicomte de Bayeux and d'Avranches, 1st Earl of Chester (b c1070, d 01.1128-9) | |||||||||||||||
| m. (c1097) Lucy (dau of either Algar, Earl of Mercia, or Thorold, Sheriff of Lincoln) | |||||||||||||||
| This Lucy is 'the Countess Lucy' whose parentage has been argued over by many genealogists. One source identifies her as Lucy d'Avranches, sister/heir of Richard de Abrincis or d'Avranches, 2nd Earl of Chester. | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Ranulph 'de Gernons' de Meschines, 2nd Earl of Chester (b 1099, d 16.12.1153) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1141) Maud FitzRobert (d 29.07.1189, dau of Robert of Caen, 1st Earl of Gloucester) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Hugh 'de Keveliok' de Meschines, 3rd Earl of Chester (b 1147, d 1181) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1169) Bertrade de Montfort (b c1152, d 1227 or 12.07.1189, dau of Simon de Montfort 'le chauve', Count of Evreux) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Ranulph 'de Blundeville' de Meschines, 4th Earl of Chester (Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond) (b c1172, dsp 28.10.1232) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (1188, div 1199) Constance, Duchess of Brittany (b 1161, d 05.09.1201, dau of Conon IV, Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (before 07.10.1200) Clementia / Clemence (d 1252, dau of William de Fougeres) | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Maud de Meschines | GJRS | |||||||||||||
| m. (26.08.1190) David 'Etherington', Earl of Huntingdon (b c1144, 17.06.1219) | GJRS | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Mabel de Meschines | HJY | |||||||||||||
| m. William de Albini, Earl of Arundel and Sussex | HJY | ||||||||||||||
| iv. | Agnes de Meschines (d 02.11.1246-7) | HY | |||||||||||||
| m. (1192) William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby (d 22.09.1246-7) | HY | ||||||||||||||
| v. | Hawise de Meschines | Y | |||||||||||||
| m1. Robert de Quincy (dvp) | Y | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir Warren Bostock of Bostock | |||||||||||||||
| possibly by partner unknown was ... | |||||||||||||||
| vi. | Amicia de Meschines | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Ralph de Mesnilwarin (justice of Chester) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Richard de Meschines | ||||||||||||||
| C. | Beatrix de Meschines | ||||||||||||||
| m. Ralph ap Eynion, lord of Malpas | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Margaret de Malpas | ||||||||||||||
| m. David le Clerke de Malpas | |||||||||||||||
| D. | Joanna de Meschines (b c1145) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Adam le Brus, Lord of Skelton (b c1143, d 1196) | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | William de Meschines of Copeland (b c1100) shown by some sources as brother rather than son of Ranulph | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1125) Cecily de Rumilly (b c1100, dau of Robert de Rumilly of Harewood & Skipton) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Ranulph de Baiocis in Lincoln possibly fits here, could be illegitimate? | HJY | |||||||||||||
| m. Margaret (dau/heir of Alan de Lincoln) | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Maud/Matilda de Meschines (b c1126, d after 1190) | HJY | |||||||||||||
| m1. Phillip (Guillaume) de Belmeis (b c1110) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Adeliz de Belmeis | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alan la Zouche | |||||||||||||||
| ii.+ | other issue (dsp) - Philip, Ranulph | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Hugh de Mortimer, lord of Wigmore (b 1108, d before 1181) | HJY | ||||||||||||||
| C. | Avice or Amice de Meschines of Rumilli | ||||||||||||||
| m1. William de Curcy | |||||||||||||||
| m2. William Paynel of Les Moutiers-Hubert, Hambye and Drax (d before 1148) | |||||||||||||||
| D. | Alice de Meschines, Lady of Skipton | ||||||||||||||
| m1. William FitzDuncan (d 1154) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Alexander FitzGerold | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Adeliza/Alice de Meschines (b 1188/94, d 1128) | HJRY | |||||||||||||
| m. Richard FitzGilbert de Clare, 1st Earl of Hertford (b 1084-90, d 1139 or 15.04.1136) | HJRY | ||||||||||||||
| 4. | Agnes de Meschines | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert de Grentemaisnil (Grandmesnil) (d(sp?) 1136) | |||||||||||||||
| Identified by 'The House of Cockburn of that Ilk and the Cadets thereof' (Thomas H. Cockburn-Wood, 1888, p266) as the only sister of Ranulph & William, a view that leads us to view the following with caution, was ... | |||||||||||||||
| 5. | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert d'Estrivers or Trevers | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Ibria Trevers | ||||||||||||||
| m. Ranulph Engain | |||||||||||||||
| i. | William Engain | ||||||||||||||
| The following is supported by TCP (vol IX, 'Multon', p 398). | |||||||||||||||
| m. Eustacie | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Ada Engain | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Simon de Morville | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Robert de Vaux (dspl 1195) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s): BE1883 (Meschines of Chester), various web sites with some support on the Earls from TCP (Chester)
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