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Coelgodebog or Coel Goebog (a 330) called 'Coel Hen' by 'RoyalData' | |||||||||||||||
1. | Ceneu or Cenau | ||||||||||||||
A. | Gwrst or Gwrwst or Gorwst Ledlwm | ||||||||||||||
i. | Meirchion Gul | ||||||||||||||
a. | Elidir Lyadwyn | ||||||||||||||
(1) | Llywarch Hen | ||||||||||||||
(A) | Dwywg | ||||||||||||||
(i) | Gwair (Gwyar, prince of Deheubarth) | ||||||||||||||
m. Anna Margawse (dau of Uter Pendragon) mentioned by 'RoyalData' | |||||||||||||||
(a) | Tegid | ||||||||||||||
((1)) | Alcwn or Alcwin - continued below | HJY | |||||||||||||
b. | Cynfarch Oer | ||||||||||||||
(1) | Urien Rheged | ||||||||||||||
(A) | Pasgen | ||||||||||||||
(i) | Lleminod Angel | ||||||||||||||
(a) | Lleon | ||||||||||||||
((1)) | Lludd | ||||||||||||||
((A)) | Tegwel | ||||||||||||||
((i)) | Marchwiethian - continued below | ||||||||||||||
B. | Mar or Mor | ||||||||||||||
i. | Arthwys or Garthwys | ||||||||||||||
a. | Cynfelin | ||||||||||||||
(1) | Clynwyd or Cynwyd Cynwydion | ||||||||||||||
(A) | Cadrod Calchfynydd | ||||||||||||||
(i) | Yspwys or Yabys | ||||||||||||||
(a) | Mynan | ||||||||||||||
((1)) | Mor | ||||||||||||||
((A)) | Elevan or Elfyw | ||||||||||||||
((i)) | Cynan | ||||||||||||||
((a)) | Marchudd, Lord of Brnffenigl (d c850) | H | |||||||||||||
2. | Gwawl | HJY | |||||||||||||
m. Cunedda | HJY | ||||||||||||||
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Alcwn or Alcwin - continued above | |||||||||||||||
1. | Sandde or Handaer | ||||||||||||||
A. | Elidir | ||||||||||||||
i. | Gwriad or Gwyriad of the Isle of Man, King of Gwynedd (d 825) | ||||||||||||||
m. Ethil (Eisyllt or Essyllt) of Gwynedd | |||||||||||||||
Griffith shows the wives of Gwyriad and his son Merfyn the other way around, with Essyllt as wife rather than mother of Merfyn and Nesta as wife rather than daughter-in-law of Gwyriad. We comment more on this matter under Merfyn on the continuation page. | |||||||||||||||
a. | Merfyn 'the freckled', King of Gwynedd (d 844) | HJY | |||||||||||||
m. Nest (dau of Cadel ap Brochwel of Powys) | HJY | ||||||||||||||
b. | Cadrod Hardd§W§ (T15) | ||||||||||||||
The following comes from Griffith's Pedigrees (Tribe of Cadrod Hardd, p395). Griffith (p81) starts with Cadrodd Bardd, identifying him as Lord of Bodafon, but suggests that he was living in AD1000. This raises concerns as to the reliability of this connection, possibly indicating confusion between different Cadrods and/or the omission of several generations. | |||||||||||||||
m1. ?? | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Arthen of Trefarthen | ||||||||||||||
(A)+ | issue - Cynwrig, Bleddyn, Madog | ||||||||||||||
Cynwrig is shown as living temp Edward III (who r. 1327-1377) which looks distinctly dubious. | |||||||||||||||
(2) | Ednyfed of Tre Ednyfed in Llifon | ||||||||||||||
(3) | Owen of Trefowen | ||||||||||||||
m2. Angharad (dau of Brochel ap Moelwyn) | |||||||||||||||
(4) | Sandde Hardd | ||||||||||||||
m. Angharad (dau of Gruffydd ap Cadwgan, lord of Nannau) | |||||||||||||||
(5) | Iddon | ||||||||||||||
(6) | Gwrydyr of Trefadog | ||||||||||||||
Not mentioned on Griffith (p395) but shown as son of Cadrod Hardd on Griffith (p324) was ... | |||||||||||||||
(7) | Cilmin Droed Ddu | ||||||||||||||
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Marchwiethian, lord of Is Asled, of Llyweni - continued above§W§ (F22) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Marchwystl | ||||||||||||||
A. | Ystrwyth | ||||||||||||||
i. | Tangno named Cadwgan on Griffith (The Pantons of Bagillt, p105) | ||||||||||||||
a. | Tyfid Farfayth of Carwed Fynydd | ||||||||||||||
(1) | Heilyn Gloff of Carwed Fynydd | ||||||||||||||
m. Nest (dau of Cadwgan ap Llowarch ap Bran, of Porthamel) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | Llowarch | ||||||||||||||
m. Gwenllian (dau of Madog ap Rhirid Flaidd, of Penllyn) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Cynwrig | ||||||||||||||
m. Dyddgu (dau of Cadwgan Fottwm ap Ednyyfed ap Cadwgan Ddu ap Llwarch ap Bran, of Llys Llowarch) | |||||||||||||||
(a) | Cynwrig Vychan (a temp Edward III who r. 1327-1377) | ||||||||||||||
m. Morfydd (dau of Madog Ddu ap Madog Goch ap Iorwerth ap Gwrgeneu ap Cynferth ap Rhun ap Nefydd Hardd, of Nant Conway) | |||||||||||||||
((1)) | Heilyn Frych of Carwed Fynydd & Berain | ||||||||||||||
m. Nest (dau of Gruffydd Llwyd ap Madog ap Llewelyn ap Ynyr, of Ial) | |||||||||||||||
((2)) | Howel of Rhiwlas | ||||||||||||||
m. Margaret (dau/coheir of Howel of Rhoswnog) | |||||||||||||||
((3)) | Einion | ||||||||||||||
(b) | Dyddgu | ||||||||||||||
(c) | Einion of Caer y Druidion (aka Cerrigydruidion) | ||||||||||||||
b.+ | other issue - Ithel, Elidir of Brynyneuadd | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) the line of Merfyd (uploaded 01.10.02) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Kings & Princes of Wales, p309)
(2) the line of Marchudd (uploaded 01.10.02) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Stock of the founders - Ednyfed Vychan, p324)
(3) ancestors of Marchwiethian (uploaded 10.10.09) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Stock of the founders - Marchweithian, p325)
(4) descendants of Marchwiethian (uploaded 10.10.09) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Plas Iolyn (p204) & Berain (p223) & Hendregwenllian (p235) & Rhiwlas (p247))
with some support from 'RoyalData'
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